Category talk:83Plus:BCALLs:By Name - Revision history

TheStorm: typo

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typo

TheStorm at 02:42, 18 February 2009

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Dan Englender at 20:58, 20 February 2006

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68.217.107.70 at 07:00, 19 February 2006

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Gambit at 03:44, 18 February 2006

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68.217.107.70 at 00:23, 14 February 2006

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Gambit at 23:06, 13 February 2006

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FloppusMaximus at 22:34, 13 February 2006

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FloppusMaximus at 22:16, 13 February 2006

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AndyJ at 21:44, 13 February 2006

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	::Yeah, I believe vortx (a.k.a. Brandon Sterner) compiled that list. In fact, it's hosted on the DS server - would it be OK if I posted a link to it? [[User:Gambit\|Gambit]] 15:06, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)		::Yeah, I believe vortx (a.k.a. Brandon Sterner) compiled that list. In fact, it's hosted on the DS server - would it be OK if I posted a link to it? [[User:Gambit\|Gambit]] 15:06, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

−	This page needs t be fixed to show the names rather than address on the bcalls.--[[User:TheStorm\|TheStorm]] 02:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)	+	This page needs to be fixed to show the names rather than address on the bcalls.--[[User:TheStorm\|TheStorm]] 02:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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	::Yeah, I believe vortx (a.k.a. Brandon Sterner) compiled that list. In fact, it's hosted on the DS server - would it be OK if I posted a link to it? [[User:Gambit\|Gambit]] 15:06, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)		::Yeah, I believe vortx (a.k.a. Brandon Sterner) compiled that list. In fact, it's hosted on the DS server - would it be OK if I posted a link to it? [[User:Gambit\|Gambit]] 15:06, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
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		+	This page needs t be fixed to show the names rather than address on the bcalls.--[[User:TheStorm\|TheStorm]] 02:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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 ::::I happened to find my wget-ed copy of the PDFs on TI's site ([[User:CalcKing|CalcKing]] might have a copy too) which I d/l after asking for your permission to 'copy them' to WikiTI (I began with [[83Plus:OS:Edit_Buffers]], but never finished the others -_-).  How should I send them to you? [[User:Gambit|Gambit]] 19:44, 17 Feb 2006 (PST)
 :::::If you'd like to either upload them somewhere or email them to tideletedmywebpage@mail.denglend.net I'll upload the pdfs to the wiki. Thanks.  --Dan
 :There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them.  It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end.  Its introduction states:

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 :::I actually don't have the docs in PDF format.  I wrote them in .doc format, and TI converted them to PDF.  Does anyone have the PDFs?  I don't have acrobat, so converting them may be annoying.  --Dan
 ::::I happened to find my wget-ed copy of the PDFs on TI's site ([[User:CalcKing|CalcKing]] might have a copy too) which I d/l after asking for your permission to 'copy them' to WikiTI (I began with [[83Plus:OS:Edit_Buffers]], but never finished the others -_-).  How should I send them to you? [[User:Gambit|Gambit]] 19:44, 17 Feb 2006 (PST)
 :There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them.  It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end.  Its introduction states:

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 ::I don't see that we need more categories.  What we've been doing -- distinguishing on the page itself between "Official" and "Unofficial" names -- should suffice for people who actually care about such things.  It might be worth adding a template, perhaps, to say "This routine is documented in the {SDK guide | System Routines Documentation | Silver Edition Addendum | AppGuru | Dan's Undocumented Page}" with an appropriate link.  (Speaking of which, [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://education.ti.com/us/resources/developer/83/download/unsupported.html the last] seems to have been lost in the latest reorganization... Dan, could you put those PDFs back up somewhere?)  But anyway, it's worth noting that the official documentation is often misleading and occasionally wrong, so "official" does not necessarily imply "better." [[User:FloppusMaximus|FloppusMaximus]] 14:34, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
 :::I actually don't have the docs in PDF format.  I wrote them in .doc format, and TI converted them to PDF.  Does anyone have the PDFs?  I don't have acrobat, so converting them may be annoying.  --Dan
 :There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them.  It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end.  Its introduction states:

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	::I don't see that we need more categories. What we've been doing -- distinguishing on the page itself between "Official" and "Unofficial" names -- should suffice for people who actually care about such things. It might be worth adding a template, perhaps, to say "This routine is documented in the {SDK guide \| System Routines Documentation \| Silver Edition Addendum \| AppGuru \| Dan's Undocumented Page}" with an appropriate link. (Speaking of which, [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://education.ti.com/us/resources/developer/83/download/unsupported.html the last] seems to have been lost in the latest reorganization... Dan, could you put those PDFs back up somewhere?) But anyway, it's worth noting that the official documentation is often misleading and occasionally wrong, so "official" does not necessarily imply "better." [[User:FloppusMaximus\|FloppusMaximus]] 14:34, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)		::I don't see that we need more categories. What we've been doing -- distinguishing on the page itself between "Official" and "Unofficial" names -- should suffice for people who actually care about such things. It might be worth adding a template, perhaps, to say "This routine is documented in the {SDK guide \| System Routines Documentation \| Silver Edition Addendum \| AppGuru \| Dan's Undocumented Page}" with an appropriate link. (Speaking of which, [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://education.ti.com/us/resources/developer/83/download/unsupported.html the last] seems to have been lost in the latest reorganization... Dan, could you put those PDFs back up somewhere?) But anyway, it's worth noting that the official documentation is often misleading and occasionally wrong, so "official" does not necessarily imply "better." [[User:FloppusMaximus\|FloppusMaximus]] 14:34, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
		+	:::I actually don't have the docs in PDF format. I wrote them in .doc format, and TI converted them to PDF. Does anyone have the PDFs? I don't have acrobat, so converting them may be annoying. --Dan

	:There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them. It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end. Its introduction states:		:There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them. It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end. Its introduction states:

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	:I honestly don't remember where or when I got it or who wrote it -- it certainly wasn't me, and Google doesn't know it. Perhaps it was on the old TCPA site? Anyway, if its author is still around and gives permission I'll be happy to distribute it, since it's useful information and seems to have vanished off the face of the earth.		:I honestly don't remember where or when I got it or who wrote it -- it certainly wasn't me, and Google doesn't know it. Perhaps it was on the old TCPA site? Anyway, if its author is still around and gives permission I'll be happy to distribute it, since it's useful information and seems to have vanished off the face of the earth.
	:Apart from that... obviously you can see what B_CALL ''addresses'' aren't documented. As far as I know no official names beyond ti83plus.inc (and of course, ti83asm.inc, squish.inc, and ti86*.inc) have ever been published by TI, though some people seem to know more than they're telling... [[User:FloppusMaximus\|FloppusMaximus]] 14:16, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)		:Apart from that... obviously you can see what B_CALL ''addresses'' aren't documented. As far as I know no official names beyond ti83plus.inc (and of course, ti83asm.inc, squish.inc, and ti86*.inc) have ever been published by TI, though some people seem to know more than they're telling... [[User:FloppusMaximus\|FloppusMaximus]] 14:16, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
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		+	::Yeah, I believe vortx (a.k.a. Brandon Sterner) compiled that list. In fact, it's hosted on the DS server - would it be OK if I posted a link to it? [[User:Gambit\|Gambit]] 15:06, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

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 Is there a list of romcalls that are not officially listed in ti83plus.inc?--[[User:Jim e|Jim e]] 13:36, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
 :Not that I know of, but that wouldn't be a bad idea for another category (or two -- documented and undocumented. I would say by name only to keep category counts down)... [[User:AndyJ|Andy Janata]] 13:44, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
 :There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them.  It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end.  Its introduction states:

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	Is there a list of romcalls that are not officially listed in ti83plus.inc?--[[User:Jim e\|Jim e]] 13:36, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)		Is there a list of romcalls that are not officially listed in ti83plus.inc?--[[User:Jim e\|Jim e]] 13:36, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
	:Not that I know of, but that wouldn't be a bad idea for another category (or two -- documented and undocumented. I would say by name only to keep category counts down)... [[User:AndyJ\|Andy Janata]] 13:44, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)		:Not that I know of, but that wouldn't be a bad idea for another category (or two -- documented and undocumented. I would say by name only to keep category counts down)... [[User:AndyJ\|Andy Janata]] 13:44, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
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		+	:There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them. It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end. Its introduction states:
		+	;i've compiled this list of romcalls from several different includes... sometimes trying to match up similarities between
		+	;different calcs. this is what i came up with... there are still romcalls not listed here which are new to the 83+.
		+	;i could not test each romcall individually so the ones i have not tried yet are commented out and due to the fact these
		+	;equates are only my best guess. have fun!
		+	:I honestly don't remember where or when I got it or who wrote it -- it certainly wasn't me, and Google doesn't know it. Perhaps it was on the old TCPA site? Anyway, if its author is still around and gives permission I'll be happy to distribute it, since it's useful information and seems to have vanished off the face of the earth.
		+	:Apart from that... obviously you can see what B_CALL ''addresses'' aren't documented. As far as I know no official names beyond ti83plus.inc (and of course, ti83asm.inc, squish.inc, and ti86*.inc) have ever been published by TI, though some people seem to know more than they're telling... [[User:FloppusMaximus\|FloppusMaximus]] 14:16, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

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	Is there a list of romcalls that are not officially listed in ti83plus.inc?--[[User:Jim e\|Jim e]] 13:36, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)		Is there a list of romcalls that are not officially listed in ti83plus.inc?--[[User:Jim e\|Jim e]] 13:36, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
		+	:Not that I know of, but that wouldn't be a bad idea for another category (or two -- documented and undocumented. I would say by name only to keep category counts down)... [[User:AndyJ\|Andy Janata]] 13:44, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)