Difference between revisions of "Category talk:83Plus:BCALLs:By Name"

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Why are there 180 items in this category and 183 items in the "by address" category?

Hey, that's only 1.6 percent... not bad! Because the letter Z (83Plus:BCALLs:4A65, 83Plus:BCALLs:4A68, 83Plus:BCALLs:802A) does not exist. Administrators? Are we missing anything else? FloppusMaximus 17:37, 7 Dec 2005 (PST)

It only shows 200 items per page. This includes subcategories. Click the (next 200) link. Andy Janata 04:41, 8 Dec 2005 (PST)

That makes a lot of sense. Clearly, we have failed to comprehend what "There are X articles in this category" means.

Hmm... seems it stops ignoring case when you start moving about (compare [1], [2].) FloppusMaximus 06:25, 8 Dec 2005 (PST)

Ah. Well I changed the category limit to 400 because it was pissing me off --Dan

Probably because JMan only hacked the one part of the script. :) Andy Janata 04:46, 12 Dec 2005 (PST)

Is there a list of romcalls that are not officially listed in ti83plus.inc?--Jim e 13:36, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

Not that I know of, but that wouldn't be a bad idea for another category (or two -- documented and undocumented. I would say by name only to keep category counts down)... Andy Janata 13:44, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

I don't see that we need more categories. What we've been doing -- distinguishing on the page itself between "Official" and "Unofficial" names -- should suffice for people who actually care about such things. It might be worth adding a template, perhaps, to say "This routine is documented in the {SDK guide | System Routines Documentation | Silver Edition Addendum | AppGuru | Dan's Undocumented Page}" with an appropriate link. (Speaking of which, the last seems to have been lost in the latest reorganization... Dan, could you put those PDFs back up somewhere?) But anyway, it's worth noting that the official documentation is often misleading and occasionally wrong, so "official" does not necessarily imply "better." FloppusMaximus 14:34, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

I actually don't have the docs in PDF format. I wrote them in .doc format, and TI converted them to PDF. Does anyone have the PDFs? I don't have acrobat, so converting them may be annoying. --Dan

I happened to find my wget-ed copy of the PDFs on TI's site (CalcKing might have a copy too) which I d/l after asking for your permission to 'copy them' to WikiTI (I began with 83Plus:OS:Edit_Buffers, but never finished the others -_-). How should I send them to you? Gambit 19:44, 17 Feb 2006 (PST)

If you'd like to either upload them somewhere or email them to tideletedmywebpage@mail.denglend.net I'll upload the pdfs to the wiki. Thanks. --Dan

The PDFs are now available here. It would be better if they were added to the wiki itself, but it's better than nothing for now. --Dan Englender 12:58, 20 Feb 2006 (PST)

There's a file I have called romcalls83.txt -- completely misnamed, as it primarily involves Flash, B_CALLs, and the 83+, and is an assembly include file, not plain text -- which has vaguely official-sounding names for a number of undocumented routines, and one-line descriptions for some of them. It runs up through OS 1.13, though it is missing a lot near the end. Its introduction states:

;i've compiled this list of romcalls from several different includes... sometimes trying to match up similarities between
;different calcs.  this is what i came up with... there are still romcalls not listed here which are new to the 83+.
;i could not test each romcall individually so the ones i have not tried yet are commented out and due to the fact these
;equates are only my best guess.  have fun!

I honestly don't remember where or when I got it or who wrote it -- it certainly wasn't me, and Google doesn't know it. Perhaps it was on the old TCPA site? Anyway, if its author is still around and gives permission I'll be happy to distribute it, since it's useful information and seems to have vanished off the face of the earth.

Apart from that... obviously you can see what B_CALL addresses aren't documented. As far as I know no official names beyond ti83plus.inc (and of course, ti83asm.inc, squish.inc, and ti86*.inc) have ever been published by TI, though some people seem to know more than they're telling... FloppusMaximus 14:16, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

Yeah, I believe vortx (a.k.a. Brandon Sterner) compiled that list. In fact, it's hosted on the DS server - would it be OK if I posted a link to it? Gambit 15:06, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)

This page needs t be fixed to show the names rather than address on the bcalls.--TheStorm 02:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)